Dr. Glen Jeffery

around this.

There's 50 PhDs in this with some really simple winner experiments.

Yeah, so we're doing clinical trials and I'm quite optimistic about some of them.

But there is a specific group of diseases called mitochondrial diseases where the genetic code, because mitochondria have got their own DNA, the genetic code for making ATP gets disrupted.

And that can be mild or it can be very severe.

Some of these children do not make it beyond 25.

Typical reasons are heart failure, etc.

Some of them are very...

bed bound and crippled by the disease.

Others managed to walk around and function to a first approximation.

And I started to get emails from people who said, you know, you were showing red light, you're using word red light and mitochondria, improving mitochondria.

My child's got mitochondrial disease.

And I said, I don't have ethics for that.

I can't pass any real comment.

If you chose to do something, then I suggest you might consider doing this.

And the first child that did do that had a, I would say, gut-wrenching improvement.

we were devastated by its effect.

Positive effect.

So we were looking at simple metrics, which is how much they could open their eyelids.

It's called ptosis, right?