Dr. Hilary Goldsher

The exact same thing happens during the reunification process with an abuser for all of the reasons that I was just describing and more that we can go into if we find the time, but it is the same process. And so you're talking about literal detox. I don't mean detox in quotes.

You're talking about in part to truly get away from an abusive relationship, you have to detox, which means you have to be away from the person. And whatever that takes, whether it's moving to another country or some curation of resources amongst your community, can change from scenario to scenario, of course, but that's what you're talking about. And in the absence of true detox, i.e.

You're talking about in part to truly get away from an abusive relationship, you have to detox, which means you have to be away from the person. And whatever that takes, whether it's moving to another country or some curation of resources amongst your community, can change from scenario to scenario, of course, but that's what you're talking about. And in the absence of true detox, i.e.

You're talking about in part to truly get away from an abusive relationship, you have to detox, which means you have to be away from the person. And whatever that takes, whether it's moving to another country or some curation of resources amongst your community, can change from scenario to scenario, of course, but that's what you're talking about. And in the absence of true detox, i.e.

not being with the person, you're not going to be able to truly go away. Why? Because your brain will seek the, the hit of the serotonin and dopamine time and time again in a very similar way that an addict does.

not being with the person, you're not going to be able to truly go away. Why? Because your brain will seek the, the hit of the serotonin and dopamine time and time again in a very similar way that an addict does.

not being with the person, you're not going to be able to truly go away. Why? Because your brain will seek the, the hit of the serotonin and dopamine time and time again in a very similar way that an addict does.

And so conceptualizing that way first helps people understand as they're observing and thinking about it from the outside, but also helps people in it perhaps think about resources in a different way. Yes, who specializes in this arena is going to be very useful, but the curation of resources to help with removal. It has to be incredibly robust, which I don't want to end our time together.

And so conceptualizing that way first helps people understand as they're observing and thinking about it from the outside, but also helps people in it perhaps think about resources in a different way. Yes, who specializes in this arena is going to be very useful, but the curation of resources to help with removal. It has to be incredibly robust, which I don't want to end our time together.

And so conceptualizing that way first helps people understand as they're observing and thinking about it from the outside, but also helps people in it perhaps think about resources in a different way. Yes, who specializes in this arena is going to be very useful, but the curation of resources to help with removal. It has to be incredibly robust, which I don't want to end our time together.

I know we're not almost done, but without saying this, which is the final but critical piece that I'm thinking about around why people stay is the fear of retaliation.

I know we're not almost done, but without saying this, which is the final but critical piece that I'm thinking about around why people stay is the fear of retaliation.

I know we're not almost done, but without saying this, which is the final but critical piece that I'm thinking about around why people stay is the fear of retaliation.

Yes, empirically, empirically, data, statistics, the most dangerous period for abuse victims is when they're thinking about leaving, when they leave and in the aftermath.

Yes, empirically, empirically, data, statistics, the most dangerous period for abuse victims is when they're thinking about leaving, when they leave and in the aftermath.

Yes, empirically, empirically, data, statistics, the most dangerous period for abuse victims is when they're thinking about leaving, when they leave and in the aftermath.

So you're talking about two pieces. One is the internal risk of the victim once they leave, recklessly searching for that high. Yes.

So you're talking about two pieces. One is the internal risk of the victim once they leave, recklessly searching for that high. Yes.

So you're talking about two pieces. One is the internal risk of the victim once they leave, recklessly searching for that high. Yes.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think we can out of hand dismiss the truth that she didn't directly interview the victim or the alleged perpetrator.