Dr. Hillary Goldsher

Yes.

Well, I guess you'll have a version of an objective opinion because I don't really have a context and given the topic that we're talking about, maybe that's useful.

Yes.

Well,

I have to say out loud that I am devastated on behalf of you two and your younger selves and on the younger selves that you represent amongst all your listeners that are out there, both that are young and coming into their own bodies and that were young at some point and struggling coming into their own bodies.

I'm devastated.

You guys are talking about this.

You're used to the story.

I am not.

I am not.

And I feel like it is my duty as a clinician and a doctor to say, I'm so sorry that

This is not okay.

And back then, even though it was a while ago, folks should have known better.

And there's really no excuse for the mishandling of this aspect of what was happening with you young people.

folks that were under their care.

And so my reaction is that as a human being, I'm devastated as like a shepherd to people who struggle with eating disorders and disordered thinking around food and body dysmorphia.

This is just a clear trajectory to causing those sorts of issues for young people.

And so I first just want to say, I'm so sorry.

There's nothing about this that is okay.

And I think the story might be that you're so used to the story that there's a part of you that might not recognize how not okay this is.