Dr. Hillary Goldsher

You may or may not already be doing that.

But just focusing on the symptom, so to speak, as if it's still about the body, will get you only so far.

Do you know?

I mean, this really was an existential identity crisis.

And to resolve it, and there are many reality components to it, you all really do have expectations that I gather it's communicated to you that you're not meeting because you were public figures.

I put not meeting in quotes.

I can't see.

And so to resolve that and decide on your own who you want to be and what...

defines value is an incredible pursuit, but again, has to be, in my view, under the lens of trauma.

Well, everyone ages at some point and.

Yes, that's right.

And it has to reconcile with what you're talking about.

And there's an enormous reality component that you have to do it in this public space.

way and again the recalibration that that requires there's a reality component you're not just complaining you are getting this feedback and it is really hard to absorb and not internalize and make different the view you have of yourself and so as i said i i really do conceptualize that as a version of trauma and the way to respond to that has to incorporate trauma work um the day-to-day notions um

of just trying to ward that off by focusing on oneself and positive affirmations may just not be enough in this context because the incoming is so significant and chronic and persistent.

Thank you for being so vulnerable and open, really moving.