Dr. Hillary Goldsher

And I am feeling at the moment so impacted and sad around what you all are saying, because in

In my mind, I've had over the years the opportunity to work with a fair number of public figures.

And what I'm about to say might not be so palatable for everyone because there is a privilege to being a public figure.

But I've come to conceptualize fame and celebrity to have some element of trauma associated.

Yeah.

And certainly what you guys are talking about falls under that category.

And like I said, it's hard for people to digest because there's so much privilege.

Of course, that's a front facing entertainment person.

But the the pull to show up a certain way and then the shame when there's a gap, a delta between how the public expects you to show up and how you do is big.

devastating to the being, you know, and I was just thinking about that, you know, well, when you were saying, I don't think I'll ever get there, my heart felt like, slightly shattered.

And I, you know, I don't want to say this as a throwaway, it's an incredible endeavor, but it really is trauma work.

And that takes a while, an understatement, and it's kind of an existential exercise, you know, working through the trauma and trying to conceptualize

who you want to be and why you were put on this earth and the gap between the world's expectations and how you come to know yourself and how you define, you know, humanity and success.

And it is really nothing short of trauma work.

It is much more than like, oh, will I ever like accept my body?

Although of course, day to day, it shows up like that often.

But it is an incredible endeavor.

And I just want to offer the notion that first, that it is trauma work, not just body work.

And so it's a place that I would hope for all of you.

That's the kind of work that needs to be undertaken.