Dr James Mannion

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Rethinking Education · "We need revolution, not evolution!" - Education of the Head, Heart and Hand, with Sarah Seleznyov and Liz Robinson · 20 Jul 2026 podcast

Hope you enjoy the show.

Lovely to have this conversation finally after I don't know how long that I've had you guys on my list of people that I want to get on this on this podcast but it's a very long time so big huge welcome and overdue welcome to the Rethinking Education podcast.

Yeah, you're very welcome.

So I think a good place to start might be at last year's education festival, where I was sitting next to Sarah in the audience of a, there was a panel discussion of which you were a participant, Liz.

um but it was about the the Francis review and I think Becky Francis had like presented earlier that day and then this was um a sort of supposed to be more of like a Q&A event and there wasn't that much there wasn't that much Q&A I remember Cicero was kind of you know um you know we're supposed to sort of go we really just want to put some questions and then of course in 10 minutes at the end there's just like a forest of a forest of hands went up um

And we got about three questions in.

But I remember you saying a number of very interesting things that day, Liz.

And one of them was just about the fact that the curriculum and assessment review was literally that.

Pedagogy wasn't mentioned.

And you made a very powerful case that day for bringing pedagogy into the mix.

And of course, in the book, you structure it around a fourth element of pedagogy.

of leadership.

And Tim Brighouse and Mick Waters used to talk a lot about the three-sided wheel, they used to call it the three-sided wheel of pedagogy, curriculum and assessment.

And so I think it might just be an interesting place to start to make that, if you can summon that back up from a year or so ago, to make that case for pedagogy.

Why was it important that this was not mentioned in the curriculum and assessment review?

Yeah, thank you.

You preempted my next question there as well, which was about your sort of more expansive definition of curriculum.

And I really like that.

It's quite an England-specific problem, this, isn't it?

This idea that education is about the transfer of information into some children's long-term memories.

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