Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon

And he was very easy to talk with, not the least bit threatening.

At one point, and, you know, this is one example, I think, of how green I was.

There are a lot of them.

But...

He came out on each of the four days that I spent with him.

He would come out with this log book and then usually some photograph albums.

He was so compulsive that in this log book, he registered every piece of mail he received, every meal he ate, what time he got up, what time he went to bed.

Visitors, he was very compulsive.

And...

After we'd talked, I'm trying to think whether this was on the first day.

It occurred a couple of different times.

He said we were sitting at a relatively small table in a death row visiting room, either side of the table.

And he said, come over on my side of the table.

I remember thinking, I don't want to go over there.

But I also don't communicate fear.

So I thought, well,

Okay.

You know, I know, like, you know, and I already knew by this time, by the way, that the guards weren't monitoring us at all.

I learned that there was a video camera in the room, but we were not being monitored.

Well, it's, it's a very good question that you raise.