Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon

And if it seemed like I was, I would lose the jury immediately.

I was always there as an educator, not to try to convince them not to sentence this

death or just to tell a story of what I know based on all my testing and so on.

Well, it is.

I mean, a lot of the cases I worked on were very high publicity cases.

So there was stress when it came time for me to appear at a sentencing hearing, though I got used to that and I think I was a reasonably good witness.

But one of the best things that ever happened to me in my years of working on death penalty cases is the case of a spree killer in Columbus, Ohio, where I live.

This guy had killed four people, including an infant, and attempted to kill many more.

And, you know, it was just...

He was in a holding cell outside the courtroom.

He wrote on the wall a scorecard of how many he got.

And he was the winner of the competition.

Incredibly inflammatory.

The judge limited it.

The judge only permitted one piece of this graffiti.

But my point is, this guy was a bad guy and never expressed a scintilla of remorse.

And so I testified about him and he had serious mental health problems.

I talked about him, but after my testimony, the judge recessed for a minute and the, the wife of one of his victims and her daughter, the daughter of the victim up and said, well,

You know, you testified for the defense or the defense requested your testimony.

We understand that you were just doing your job.