Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon

We thought you did a very good job as a witness.

And that was a big deal to me to have victims approach me and tell me that.

Anybody's ever asked me that question.

It's a good one.

Well, one example comes to mind.

I worked on the case of this guy killed.

He was a cult leader.

He had killed, executed a family of five, including three young children.

And before his arrest, lorded over this group of people who he claimed he was a prophet.

They were an offshoot of Mormonism, claimed he was a prophet and so on.

And he was the guy with the power and convinced this group of people to help him carry out these outrageous crimes.

And I got involved on his case at the appellate level.

I wasn't involved at the trial level.

So he was already on death row when I asked to reevaluate him.

I went to see him on death row.

And typically in the sentencing hearing of these cases, the convicted murderer was given an opportunity to make an unsworn statement.

And attorneys usually tell them, unless you can muster some degree of sincerity and get up there and say, I'm sorry, then we're not going to ask anything of you.

In this case, this guy's name was Jeffrey Lundgren.

A couple of books have been written about his case.

Jeffrey Lundgren, and he had no interest in advice from anyone, including his attorneys.