Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon

And Gacy would say, let me get you a beer or settle in.

And after a while, maybe you'll watch some porn movies.

And then...

He would say something, you know what?

I spend a lot of time as a clown.

I got a registered clown outfit and I go to nursing homes sometimes and I play the clown at children's parties.

I got a couple of tricks.

You want to see them?

And he said, let me show you the handcuff trick.

And Gacy would put the handcuffs on himself and get out of them and say, try it, try it.

You can do it too, but you got to be clever.

And the kid would let him put the handcuffs on.

And he said, I can't get out.

And Gacy would say, you know what the trick is?

And then he'd hold up the key.

And by that time, you know, the guy was disabled by this guy who had seemed not the least bit threatening.

Had a couple children.

And his second wife was actually living with him in the house that he had done some time in Iowa, a more Western state, on a couple of sodomy charges involving a teenage boy.

Served a short time in prison.

And then they agreed to parole him to his mother's house in Chicago, where he was from.