Dr Jeni Haynes

And every time he said it, I would just glare at him and, you want me to be unalive?

I have no intention of becoming unalive just to please you.

Oh, yes.

So we collected around us for the 2009 disclosures.

We already had Dr. George Blair West.

And we knew he was in our corner.

Yes.

When we went back to tell him that we were doing this, he had an expression of joy on his face that was just...

Gives me tingles just thinking.

I've got pins and needles in my head just thinking about it.

So we walked in with having in our back pocket, not with us on the day, but having in our back pocket, we had George.

And...

To be honest, that was pretty much it.

And then we met Rod Messer and he believed us, so he got put in the back pocket.

And then it went to New South Wales and it was handled by the delightful Rachel Lawson.

Right.

And she worked on it for a long time.

Paul was her boss.

Yeah, so Rachel and Paul came to Queensland to meet with us and meet with...

and then we travelled to see George and did a therapy session in front of... So they could... Yeah, and that's when George was like, OK, well, you need to meet some of the executive alters.