Dr. Jennifer Nez Denetdale

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American History Hit · Long Walk of the Navajo · 23 Jul 2026 podcast

They failed in that attempt, but I think that symbolically it indicates the amount of Navajo resistance and the amount of Navajo defense against American invasion.

Yes, they were actually both officers in the U.S.

Army.

James Carlton was the commanding officer, and he issued an order to Christopher Carson, who carried out the order and began the campaign against Navajo people with a focus on Canyon de Chelly.

So they figure very much in this story about the war on Navajo people and then the subsequent surrender of Navajo people and about 12,000 Navajo people who came in as refugees.

to the two forts, Fort Wingate and Fort Defiance, where they were then in caravans taken to the concentration camp, which is known as the Bosque Redondo Reservation outside of Fort Semler, New Mexico territory.

In our language, that place is called Huelte.

Oh, this was standard American policy.

Yeah.

War on indigenous people, forced surrender and forced relocation to lands called reservations that were undesirable to American settlers.

You know, Kit Carson is a lightning rod.

He is for Americans who are apologists for the treatment of indigenous people, tend to paint him as well as James Carlton as well-intentioned.

Carlton a humanitarian of their times and that you can't fault them for the time period that they lived in.

That kind of positioning of Carlton and Carson fails to recognize and to acknowledge the violence against indigenous people, which is American history.

You know, you have the American War, the Civil War, and that's happening like right before the war on Navajo people.

And actually, the Americans left because they had to deal with the American South.

But then after that, they come back and that

in full force, began to force the surrender of Navajo people in late 1863.

I think Carson's campaign was one to destroy all means of self-subsistence.

That meant the destruction of water sources, the burning of cornfields, because this is late summer going into fall, so you have a harvest.

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