Dr. Jesse Mills

Each January, men promise to get stronger, work harder, and fix what's broken.

But what if the real work isn't physical at all?

I sat down with psychologist, Dr. Steve Poulter, to unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional pain men were never taught how to name.

Part of the way through the valley of despair is realizing this has happened, and you have to make a choice whether you're gonna stay in it or move forward.

Our two-part conversation is available now.

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Unstuck at work, unstuck in your relationships, and even unstuck inside your mind.

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Hey there, this is Dr. Jesse Mills, director of the Men's Clinic at UCLA Health and host of the Mailroom podcast.

Each January, guys everywhere make the same resolutions.

Get stronger, work harder, fix what's broken.

But what if the real work isn't physical at all?

To kick off the new year, I sat down with Dr. Steve Poulter, a psychologist with over 30 years experience helping men unpack shame, anxiety, and emotional pain they were never taught to name.

In a powerful two-part conversation, we discuss why men aren't emotionally bulletproof, why shame hides in plain sight, and how real strength comes from listening to yourself and to others.

Guys who are toxic, they're immature, or they've got something they just haven't resolved.

Once that gets resolved, then there comes empathy and compassion.