Au Pair Affair Trial: Bondage, Breakups and Baby Names, A Wild End To Testimony

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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present 29 min 4 speakers 4 chapters transcribed
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What happened on the final day of testimony in the Au Pair Affair trial?

Amy Robach 0:00
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T.J. Holmes 2:27
Hey there, everybody. It is Thursday, January 29th, and what a final day of testimony in the Au Pair Affair double murder trial. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. The jury has heard all they are going to hear. No more evidence to be presented. Pretty explosive last day.
Amy Robach 2:50
Yes, there were quite a few topics that even we weren't expecting in a case that already is salacious just by what it is in terms of fetish websites, etc. It shouldn't be shocking that then it got even more cringy. And I say cringy because it was tough to hear the man speak. The husband, the father, who was accused of a heinous double murder, throwing his dead wife's reputation. I say that in a way under the bus because he's describing her deviant sexual fantasies and some relationships, affairs that he's testifying to that she had that were hard to hear.
T.J. Holmes 3:35
Well, the day, folks, they did stay on schedule like the judge wanted, and yes, testimony has wrapped, but the day started with the star witness and the defendant, Brendan Banfield, on the stand, something so rare in a murder case to have the defendant take the stand, but he took the stand, started yesterday, wrapped up today, was cross-examined, and then we had two rebuttal witnesses from the prosecution. We'll get into that. Certainly did not land. There cannot be anybody who thinks that landed today, Robes.
Amy Robach 4:04
Yeah, I'm wondering now, obviously it's easy to second-guess yourself, Monday morning quarterbacking, but those two rebuttal witnesses not only didn't help the prosecution's case, they may have hurt the prosecution's case.
T.J. Holmes 4:19
Yeah, so we certainly got to get into that, but let's start here, Rose, yes, with the cross-examination, right? There was so much anticipation for this, and actually she didn't take as long with him as I thought she might.

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