Dr. John Torous

We've all seen those lawsuits.

So I think that they're actually just saying two parts of the same thing.

We want to get AI to do as much wellness as possible, and we want to celebrate the ones that can cross over into the medical realm, but we don't want to let everything make a medical claim because then, as Holly said, you don't even know what the heck you're using.

At some point, it just becomes...

a forest of mess.

And the real risk is then we lose trust, as we talked about.

And as soon as you lose the trust of clinicians and patients, you've kind of destroyed the potential of this new technology.

And as we know, we don't get that many new technologies and things in mental health.

It's an amazing opportunity, but we need to get it right.

It really should be that these wellness things call themselves wellness and are upfront about what they are.

And what happens is there's kind of this, we said there's this blurred line always between, is it stress or anxiety?

Is it mood or depression?

And again, what's unfortunate is there's a lot of, again,

There's always going to be people that push the boundaries, right?

They're going to kind of try to make their technology look more appealing, try to kind of push it.

And we do have to, in some ways, understand what is in what camp so people know what it is.

But it's very hard.

as even a clinician who studies this, to look at these websites and go, is that one actually offering therapy or wellness?

I cannot tell.

And sometimes the only way I can tell, and I hate to say this, I have to read the terms and conditions.