Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring

Yeah. And this is one of the things that I worry about with humans as well. Because they often say drugs and antidepressants are the best combination. And I guess maybe for some people that's true. If they're so depressed, they couldn't even do the therapy without getting a little nudge from a drug. But we're essentially talking about a drug that is going to affect...

Yeah. And this is one of the things that I worry about with humans as well. Because they often say drugs and antidepressants are the best combination. And I guess maybe for some people that's true. If they're so depressed, they couldn't even do the therapy without getting a little nudge from a drug. But we're essentially talking about a drug that is going to affect...

your mood and your personality and how you respond to things happening to you on a daily basis. And if you blunt that, you're also going to have a lot less material to work with. In fact, a lot of the people that that when I'm pulling them off medications, if they've been on them for decades, they tell me it's like their maturation was stalled.

your mood and your personality and how you respond to things happening to you on a daily basis. And if you blunt that, you're also going to have a lot less material to work with. In fact, a lot of the people that that when I'm pulling them off medications, if they've been on them for decades, they tell me it's like their maturation was stalled.

If they got on the drugs as a teenager, they're learning to regulate their emotions for the first time in their 40s when I'm pulling them off and everything is coming back to them. It's not like they've really taken gains or taken a lot of gains from while they're on the drugs. It just kind of flattened things. So they never...

If they got on the drugs as a teenager, they're learning to regulate their emotions for the first time in their 40s when I'm pulling them off and everything is coming back to them. It's not like they've really taken gains or taken a lot of gains from while they're on the drugs. It just kind of flattened things. So they never...

really got to have that experience of having to work through difficult emotions and deal with that. That's really part of the normal process of maturing. And then so we get it all when we pull them off the drugs.

really got to have that experience of having to work through difficult emotions and deal with that. That's really part of the normal process of maturing. And then so we get it all when we pull them off the drugs.

That's a really good question. For some people, it will be just removing the medication because it's impacting their ability to be connected with the world. Some of the humans, when I ask them, can you describe...

That's a really good question. For some people, it will be just removing the medication because it's impacting their ability to be connected with the world. Some of the humans, when I ask them, can you describe...

they're having a lot of side effects to the meds i'll say can you describe what it feels like um to be you and then they say it's like i'm watching my life through a television you know i'm not feeling the emotional responses to things when i hear my favorite song come on i don't get prickles down the back of my neck you know because it reminds me of my youth when i hug my child or my spouse

they're having a lot of side effects to the meds i'll say can you describe what it feels like um to be you and then they say it's like i'm watching my life through a television you know i'm not feeling the emotional responses to things when i hear my favorite song come on i don't get prickles down the back of my neck you know because it reminds me of my youth when i hug my child or my spouse

It's harder to feel those feelings of connection. I mean, it actually just is. I mean, it is the effect of the drug that is blunting the emotions.

It's harder to feel those feelings of connection. I mean, it actually just is. I mean, it is the effect of the drug that is blunting the emotions.

So this is the thing that's gonna be challenging, because dogs can't say that they're not feeling well on the drug. It's really hard to know. So with antidepressants, Many people, I mean, they may or may not be aware of that they have this thing called a boxed warning. Now, a boxed warning is the highest warning a drug regulator can give for a medication.

So this is the thing that's gonna be challenging, because dogs can't say that they're not feeling well on the drug. It's really hard to know. So with antidepressants, Many people, I mean, they may or may not be aware of that they have this thing called a boxed warning. Now, a boxed warning is the highest warning a drug regulator can give for a medication.

It means that when you get the drug, it has this big black box on the front of it, and it says... And it says what the risk is. Now, for the antidepressants, it's that the drugs may make you more suicidal. And this is crazy. People will think this sounds crazy, but this is real. When they've done clinical trials and they look at the rate of suicidal behavior in people under age 25...

It means that when you get the drug, it has this big black box on the front of it, and it says... And it says what the risk is. Now, for the antidepressants, it's that the drugs may make you more suicidal. And this is crazy. People will think this sounds crazy, but this is real. When they've done clinical trials and they look at the rate of suicidal behavior in people under age 25...

there are more suicide attempts in the groups of people who get the drug compared to the groups who get placebos.

there are more suicide attempts in the groups of people who get the drug compared to the groups who get placebos.