Dr. Joseph Fraiman

But it's led to a very difficult system to change.

Everyone who wants to who's tried to change things in the past, what they do is they essentially just add on something new.

And it's very difficult to remove something or change it.

And, you know, it's how their response was for COVID is a different story.

I believe that what happened there was really not not acceptable.

And I don't think I would blame anyone.

the makeup of government for what happened there.

I believe that there was a lot of mistakes that were made.

Specifically, I would more so say ethical mistakes in terms of presuming that they could make the decisions

for people when really their job was to give us information.

And I think that they failed at that.

And I think they also failed at even evaluating the policies that they were creating.

And they failed at the

They failed at evaluating even the drugs that we're now just talking how they may have led to the deaths of children.

So I don't think that the structure of government is an excuse for why things may have gone wrong during COVID.

Yes, I would agree with that completely.

I think that I feel from Prasad's email, and I really hope that he can

turn that into something real.

There's this idea that floats around where you say, we need to do this trial to get these results and to show that it actually helps.

there's a viewpoint out there that says, oh, that's going to be, you're asking us to build a trial that's so expensive, it's impossible.