Dr. Joseph Lee

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I think the way in which information comes to us and adults, we're dealing with this right now, too, which is the information that comes to us through the Internet or online.
We have to negotiate a lot more practice and exercise judgment about like what's reliable, unreliable, truthful, not truthful.
And I think young people have to develop this new skill of discernment that that's also pretty stressful,
know.
And then on top of that, the last two and a half years of living through a pandemic, it's affected everybody, obviously.
Nobody on this planet has not been affected by it.
But I think people who are school-aged and younger and teen and transitioning in their own sort of life developmental stage, that's been a unique challenge, you know, because of the instability, unpredictability, and irregularities of what kids have gone through in the last...
couple of years, you know, so it's a lot, you know, it's a lot.
And it's worth acknowledging that it's generationally like an additional sort of thing that this group of kids is dealing with and has dealt with that prior generations just can't relate to.
So I think social emotional learning as a movement is actually a response to, I think, a pretty pervasive but false idea that kind of culturally says, and this is the false idea, the false idea that
is that as human beings, the defining characteristic of who we are and what makes us special is our ability to think and be logical and rational.
And even though that's true, like if you compared human beings, homo sapiens to like,
apes and dolphins and other species with big brains like we are like smarter than but i think it's turned into this sort of even the way that we do education you know it's about knowledge and facts and even you know conversations about critical thinking and how important that is i think somewhere along the way by inadvertently sort of putting being rational and logical on a pedestal
It has inadvertently really trivialized the value of our feelings and our emotions.
And I think that because of that, I think generationally, you talk about sort of our generation or older generations not being able to really relate to what younger kids are going through.
I think one of the hallmark features of people my age and above is that we did live through a time where emotions and feelings were very much trivialized as being less than.
And that it was, you know, better to be logical or rational about decision making or that if you were emotional that, you know, oh, we can't talk until you calm down.
or to, you know, suck it up, you know, like, these are really pretty common things told to us as kids.
And now we're all adults, with that sort of messaging ingrained pretty deeply in us.
So that's the context in which I think social emotional learning as a sort of like formalized philosophy of education developed as a response to and as a correction to that.
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