Dr. Joy Kong
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first heard May 2025
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neuron you know particular progenitor cells for the neuron but that is more difficult because they're very small in number sometimes you may have to induce other cells to become these cells and now at least at this point fda says now if you're trying to induce any cell to do anything or you're trying to grow them to large numbers you are making a drug
So whether or not I agree with it is a whole other question, but that is what the FDA says. Now you've changed the cells. Now you need to conduct clinical study. This is one reason that things are slowed down. You can't just go ahead and try to trigger some cells to become this new group of cells, new type of cells to tailor your treatments and then, or grow them into large numbers.
Now you're creating a drug. Now it's millions and millions of dollars go into research and approval in this time and energy. And so that slows things down quite a bit. So what we use mostly in this country and around the world right now is what's called mesenchymal stem cell. It's the most popular type. You can also use core blood or bone marrow. They contain a lot of the other type of cells.
They're primitive immune cells or cells that can form the whole blood system. So you can use those as well. But mesenchymal stem cells is the most popular. And that... those cells actually are all along your blood vessels. Anywhere you have any blood supply, you can rest assured that these cells are hovering over it and they're sensing what's going through your blood.
And they're also keeping tabs on what's in that neighboring environment to coordinate how to help your body repair. So those cells are easy to use and you don't In the US, we are using cells that have not been expanded, which means grown into large numbers in a culture medium. But overseas, they do expand them so they can create much bigger numbers.
That's a whole other subject because from what I know so far, when you grow the cells to that kind of large numbers, you are losing potency and you're also allowing the cells to start to differentiate. growing their own surface receptors that will mark them as coming from somebody else. Because we're getting these cells from a very young source, from the umbilical cord, right?
Usually that's from another person. Unless you saved your own cord, you can use your own. So when you start to expand them, grow them, then you're increasing the chance that the recipient is going to recognize, oh my God, these cells are not from me. So let me attack, or they can attack the host. So that can cause a whole range of side effects.
Gosh, that's a great question. And there's so much that we can go into. So first of all, there are a lot of myths. So if people happen to encounter some myths and their brain cells get stuck on those myths, that's one form of resistance. One of the myths is that, oh, stem cells are not legal in the US. Well, that's completely wrong because I've been doing stem cell therapy for nine years.
I've taught... over a thousand doctors how to do stem cell therapy. So we're all there providing therapy and it's absolutely legal. Well, first of all, there's nothing that says it's illegal. So it's in a gray area. So no one can say that what you're doing is illegal unless you are breaking certain rules, right? It's still not legality. The FDA did put out guidelines. Although there's no legal
you know, really bearing because it's not a law. It's not enforceable. It's an agency's guideline. What do the guidelines say? The agency, well, they can come after you if you don't follow the guideline, but still you're not breaking the law per se, right? So, but the guidelines are, if you use the cells for the same purpose of what the cells were doing in the body before,
And then you're not manipulating and changing the cells in any way, such as using chemicals or enzymes to treat them, which can cause changes, or growing them in large numbers because alterations can also happen. So if you don't do that and you fulfill the same purpose, then you are providing a tissue transplantation. You're not using this as a drug.
So if you're tissue transplanting, you're not really dealing with the whole drug control aspect. You are dealing with how medicine is practiced. So you have your patients to answer to, and you have your medical board, each state's medical board to answer to if you don't do things right. So it's being governed in a whole different, from different entities.
So when the doctor is providing tissue transplant, just like a doctor, like I'm a licensed physician surgeon. So basically we're trained to be, we can do any medical practice or provide any surgeries. So that's what our license is for. And When we do tissue transplant, that is a procedure that we can do just like blood transfusion, just like any organ transplantation.
If there's a medical necessity and a doctor can justify from either literature or research, any kind of standard of practice, that there's some kind of standard established, then they can do it, right? They can justify. But frankly, a doctor can do anything they want, to be honest, as long as they're not causing harm. Let's say a doctor believes that there's something in the dirt.
is really, really good. And the doctor says, I think you should put this in the water and drink it. And the doctor can do that as long as you're not causing harm. So that's the scope of practice. So that's first myth is that people think is not legal and is absolutely legal. Why do we have this myth? Well, there are some vested interest in people who want
stem cell therapy to be illegal in the US so everybody can go across the border, go to Panama, Costa Rica, you know, the Bahamas, Mexico, right? They would love for people to think that their only option is by taking a plane to those places. So that's one myth.
I wish I could say no. But from what I have heard, I've learned is that there's really no, there's no intention to, the FDA's part to really push or fully accept or even wanting these therapies to be approved. So I have heard certain direct evidence that point toward the fact that this agency really is not excited about pushing this forward. It may say so.
It may say that we want you to do studies, to do this and that. But what I've seen with companies is that they're given the runaround and they are asked to do things, you know, Maybe they think that certain things were not done correctly, then they have to redo certain things and they go around and around and some company ran out of money, go bankrupt.
And still even very powerful company that I know has not been able to achieve any kind of approval. So there's definitely institutional resistance there.
We want you to do this, but you just do this first. And then somehow I just couldn't finish doing those things.
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