Dr. Juli Slattery

And I see it happening in terms of how we address abuse within the church and divorce and how we talk about sex.

And it's just, I think these conversations are hugely important.

I think we are on a big learning curve on diversity.

all those issues, Hannah.

And we need to have leaders and thought leaders and people who are searching the scriptures to have these conversations and discern truth.

But the way it's happening is we're pursuing truth at the expense of learning to love each other well, learning to learn from each other.

And it breaks my heart.

There's a lot of things I do in the ministry that I have an authentic intimacy that break my heart.

And one of them is this topic.

It's just how divisive we become.

Like, I could just cry.

Yeah, it just really breaks my heart.

And I hope and pray that it breaks my heart because it breaks God's heart.

that God is not going to give all truth to one person.

He put us in a body and created us as a body so that we would have to learn to be humble, to work together, to be gentle and gracious in the areas that we disagree in.

I just feel like...

It doesn't matter how much we can articulate truth well, if we're not living in a way that is drawing people to the love of Christ, it doesn't matter.

So that's why I'm so passionate about it.

Yeah, it was a little deep.

Yeah.