Dr. Kate Lister

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After Dark: Myths, Misdeeds & the Paranormal · The Witch Men of Iceland · 2 Jul 2026 podcast

So he really starts to pile on the pressure.

They are arrested, interrogated.

And the first time they kind of go, no, no.

what?

That wasn't us.

And then the authorities seem to go, okay, don't do that again.

And then, but then he keeps being six and he keeps piling on the pressure and then he has them arrested again.

And another quirk of Icelandic law at the time is your trial pretty much came to, can you get 12 people to say you definitely didn't do it?

If you can get 12 people to say you definitely didn't do this, we'll let you off.

It's, it's, it's an interesting one.

You can pay people.

You can bribe people.

And also people get scared if you're accused of witchcraft.

And I was saying in the other episode, like how social stigma and taints work is like an easy comparison.

But like the Epstein case is like the taint of it is almost like...

It's a weird parallel between the witch trials, but I'm just saying like when someone's accused of something or they're in any kind of orbit to it, or if you are anywhere close to it, people run a mile.

So are you going to get 12 people to stand up for you and say he definitely didn't raise a zombie?

You definitely, definitely did.

And he didn't do it, right?

So I think that the first time Big John and Little John are dragged before the courts, they're let off.

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