Dr. Kate Lister

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1,100 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 2 Jul

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And particularly in Iceland, it's because the crime involved reading.
You had to be able to read, to educate yourself, to carve these runes, to conduct the magic.
And that was a male preserve.
In northern France, shepherds were accused and targeted.
The biggest demographic by far.
And it's because shepherds were thought to have like magical qualities.
And in Russia, it was wandering itinerant people who are almost always men because it's much harder for women to be wandering around freely for obvious reasons.
So it was wanderers, beggars, people like that in Russia.
In Iceland, it was associated with written magic, which was a male preserve.
That's why they were more targeted.
So what you're looking for is any group of people that have that association, that there's something...
they are able to channel magic and in iceland women just weren't it's so interesting that it comes down to something as practical as that as practical as that yeah can you do you have the literacy to do this right yes no it was just more believable to them of course it would be a man of course it would be a man that could do it men have to read and write to be able to do it whereas over here in this country our tradition was like well yeah old women they're witches
no something no because you've got to be literate in order to be able to do that so i think and i think that that's a really strong reading of what was going on yes is that it's whoever was had the most immediate association whoever you believed possible of doing magic and it wasn't women in iceland because they couldn't write
Oh, they love it.
Is it really there?
Yeah, it's like Pendle.
They've got the Museum of Witchcraft and Sorcery, which is fabulous, and I recommend anybody to go there.
They've also got a penis museum, which we didn't get time to go to.
Next time.
Penises and witches.
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