Dr. Keith Humphreys

And look where he or she is.

Boy, I wish I were there.

Well, if they're kind of like me and they got to that good spot, maybe I can get to that good spot.

And so it's a conscious and very, I think, clever organizational strategy to tell people, you know, there's a place for you here.

There's people like you here.

Yeah.

So I loved being a hospice counselor.

I did it for about 10 years.

And there's so many beautiful things about it.

First off, when I tell people, they go, oh, God, that must be really depressing.

Hospice staff were the most upbeat people I've ever worked with.

Optimistic, compassionate, seen everything.

And in a way, I could sort of understand it because, you know,

it's accepted the person's going to die.

Like, so what's the worst that could happen, right?

You know, you don't think like, oh, if I say the wrong thing, maybe, you know, in our session, you know, it'll take an extra three months to develop more trust.

Like they're not going to be alive that long.

That is, we've accepted the worst, right?

And so then we can just do well and help this person have a good death and help their family have a good death and work, you know, through their grief experience.

And so they're just very upbeat.