Dr. Kelly Starrett

It's just cold.

And full disclosure, my wife and I are professional river guides and kayakers and paddlers.

We've been cold our whole life, it feels like.

So we're like, oh, this is just like my 20s, being freezing in a river.

But I think –

It's real fun to entertain ourselves a little bit on the side.

And I think maybe we can look at some of those objects as like totemic objects that focus other health behaviors.

Maybe that's the best, nicest thing about them.

But if we're managing, uh,

someone's pain or after injury, again, I might even say hard for me to measure that growth hormone effect.

But what is really useful is that I can get people feel better.

We get better blood flow without having to work hard on a tissue that we need to protect temporarily, right?

It's easy to do that in sort of

I don't have to, you know, we're lucky we have a sauna, but maybe you have one at home and you don't have to drive.

We can have lots of these little sort of exposures more often.

And ultimately, I think it would be real fun to be like, I got into the sauna and look at my skin now.

It's amazing.

All right.

One time.

But it's really the consistency of these exposures.