Dr. Kelly Starrett

I mean, you know, all this talk about sun gazing and circadian, I'm like, when did you go outside?

You're not doing that anyway.

So it's very sophisticated and very complex, but

Anytime we can take that and put it into the lens of when and where and how are we going to do this with my kids or my family, then we really start to win.

I like to point towards, hey, let's get more time outside versus limit.

The scarcity thing, like, for example, when we do talk about nutrition with folks, we have a couple benchmarks.

We're like, we want you to eat 800 grams of fruits and vegetables every day.

It's quantifying.

That's right from E.C.

Sienkowski.

Great study, but quantifying the sort of nutrient density of your diet, making sure you get enough fiber.

And we get a lot of calorie control in the mix there.

But it's the first time to people who are like, actually, you're not eating enough fruit and vegetables.

And by the time we had protein in there, we have a lot of calorie control in the mix.

But also, you're going to be able to keep those muscles intact.

And the bone and your connective tissue and your brain, right?

So it's a lot easier for me to say, hey, let's go ahead and focus on this first.

And then if there's room for cookies, knock yourself right out.

Like five cups, five big cups, a big apple, maybe, you know, you could probably do that in four big apples a day.

It's really reasonable.