Dr. Kelly Victory

Well, let me answer. I think that's a critical issue. I think it already exists, Harry. What I've been pushing is to go back to the four pillars of medical ethics. Those pillars, autonomy, justice, those non-maleficence, beneficence, those four pillars exist for a reason. The problem is We haven't been adhering to them. No one has held anybody accountable.

Well, let me answer. I think that's a critical issue. I think it already exists, Harry. What I've been pushing is to go back to the four pillars of medical ethics. Those pillars, autonomy, justice, those non-maleficence, beneficence, those four pillars exist for a reason. The problem is We haven't been adhering to them. No one has held anybody accountable.

So the first pillar, the first pillar of medical ethics is autonomy, meaning you have the right to participate or not participate in anything.

So the first pillar, the first pillar of medical ethics is autonomy, meaning you have the right to participate or not participate in anything.

particular intervention treatment therapy and that begins with informed consent these things are all there they've been codified but your average physician under the age of 50 has probably never even heard of those four pillars they don't even teach it anymore and that's purposeful because if doctors don't know about if you don't even know what the pillars of medical ethics are you sure as hell can't follow them

particular intervention treatment therapy and that begins with informed consent these things are all there they've been codified but your average physician under the age of 50 has probably never even heard of those four pillars they don't even teach it anymore and that's purposeful because if doctors don't know about if you don't even know what the pillars of medical ethics are you sure as hell can't follow them

And they don't even teach it anymore in medical school. So I would submit that if I were queen or surgeon general, I would absolutely say we are going to return to the basics. Here are the four pillars. I'd rather if you learn nothing else in medical school, you better learn those and you better adhere to them and we better start practicing to them.

And they don't even teach it anymore in medical school. So I would submit that if I were queen or surgeon general, I would absolutely say we are going to return to the basics. Here are the four pillars. I'd rather if you learn nothing else in medical school, you better learn those and you better adhere to them and we better start practicing to them.

And people need to start demanding that their physician knows what those pillars are and makes a commitment Absolutely, to follow them.

And people need to start demanding that their physician knows what those pillars are and makes a commitment Absolutely, to follow them.

And Harry, but to your point, Harry, some something taking the teeth out of the public health system at the state level needs to be undone. Something's very, very wrong there. And from an operational or institutional or legislative standpoint, you're right, there's something wrong there. I only have a little bit of time left. I want to back off a little bit and let's just...

And Harry, but to your point, Harry, some something taking the teeth out of the public health system at the state level needs to be undone. Something's very, very wrong there. And from an operational or institutional or legislative standpoint, you're right, there's something wrong there. I only have a little bit of time left. I want to back off a little bit and let's just...

I want to, you know, tell you my observations and have you guys react to them. Because you know me, Kelly, I'm still like always in this sort of weird contemplative state based on my clinical experience. And I am absolutely mortified by the mandates. I am mortified that young people were getting these vaccines that didn't need it. I'm just, you know, I'm with you guys all the way on that stuff.

I want to, you know, tell you my observations and have you guys react to them. Because you know me, Kelly, I'm still like always in this sort of weird contemplative state based on my clinical experience. And I am absolutely mortified by the mandates. I am mortified that young people were getting these vaccines that didn't need it. I'm just, you know, I'm with you guys all the way on that stuff.

But elderly patients, I do feel like we accomplished something with some of the vaccinating programs, some of it. I have not seen much in the way of side effect from it. And again, if cancer is one of the downstream effects, I mean, elderly people's immune function is already kind of not great. And I've just not seen anything out of the ordinary.

But elderly patients, I do feel like we accomplished something with some of the vaccinating programs, some of it. I have not seen much in the way of side effect from it. And again, if cancer is one of the downstream effects, I mean, elderly people's immune function is already kind of not great. And I've just not seen anything out of the ordinary.

So it might not be affecting things the way it would in a healthy immune system that's taken down. You know what I'm saying? I did have one serious adverse reaction in a 100-year-old. She had atrial fib and was getting into failure and refused to go to the hospital the way 100-year-olds do. And I had to manage the whole thing as an outpatient. She made it through, made a VAERS report.

So it might not be affecting things the way it would in a healthy immune system that's taken down. You know what I'm saying? I did have one serious adverse reaction in a 100-year-old. She had atrial fib and was getting into failure and refused to go to the hospital the way 100-year-olds do. And I had to manage the whole thing as an outpatient. She made it through, made a VAERS report.

Of course, VAERS, thank you. And then nothing. Made a follow-up, thank you, nothing. Follow-up, nothing. Okay, they must have had a guy look at it and decided it wasn't related to the vaccine, even though 30 minutes after she got the vaccine, she was in atrial fib. But my question is this. I'm thinking about Asim Malhotra and some of the observations he's had about coronary disease.

Of course, VAERS, thank you. And then nothing. Made a follow-up, thank you, nothing. Follow-up, nothing. Okay, they must have had a guy look at it and decided it wasn't related to the vaccine, even though 30 minutes after she got the vaccine, she was in atrial fib. But my question is this. I'm thinking about Asim Malhotra and some of the observations he's had about coronary disease.