Dr. Kelly Victory
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Yeah. They were. And so this is a good segue. Now, you and I both see it. I've talked about it for the better part of five years. So have you. You're prolific on Substack. You do lots of interviews. You and I are constantly trying to educate the public about what actually happened in an honest and open way. Here we go, fast forward. Let's talk about, you know, bird flu, the next one.
Don't you think there are an awful lot of similarities in terms of the way that they are, you know, once again, it's the fear porn, the panic, the, you know, we have to, you know, kill all the birds, you know, we've got to cull the flocks. They are doing things that are nonsensical from, in my estimation, from a scientific perspective. You know, do you agree with that?
Yeah, to be clear, you and I know this, but for our audience, Bird flu, specifically we're talking about H5N1, has never been a significant risk to humans. It has only posed a risk previously to people who are in direct contact with infected birds or infected cattle. There has not been a single case of human-to-human transmission of bird flu in the United States.
OK, all of that said, a couple of things. Number one, we know that they are doing gain of function research on this virus in labs in the United States with the stated purpose of making it more transmissible human to human.
let's talk about that and gain a function but also you know they are doing things in terms supposedly in the name of safety and this is what harkens back to me it's right out of the covid playbook it's all about safety right so you know during covid it was masking and lockdowns and shutting down the schools and all of this insanity now it's killing millions of poultry birds
You know, you're shutting down farms, making them destroy all the eggs and remain closed for a matter of months. I mean, there's nothing scientific about this.
And so I guess here's the question. As an immunologist, you probably have better scientific background in this. As I mentioned, we know they're doing gain-of-function research on this virus, including at places like the USDA lab in Athens, Georgia, and in multiple academic laboratories, including the University of Wisconsin in Madison.
They are manipulating H5N1, bird flu, in the laboratory to try to make it more transmissible. we are seeing some indication of some more virulent strains of it. We've had a few people who have supposedly died with bird flu. And the question is, is that by natural mutation? You know, you and I talked with Dr. Peter McCullough about this.
Is it natural mutation or is this once again because they manipulated this virus in a laboratory?
Absolutely. I don't think that it's likely that the new variant that's causing more severe disease for bird flu, I think it's unlikely that it occurred by natural mutation. I think it likely was the result of lab manipulation. I didn't agree with much that happened during the Obama administration, but I did agree with the moratorium that was placed in 2014 on gain of function. It's very dangerous.
You and I both know lab errors, lab mistakes aren't uncommon. It happens all the time. Lab leaks happen. So even if you wanted to say, hey, what happened in Wuhan with COVID? It wasn't released on purpose. It was just abject incompetence. Even if it was that, it's dangerous. I think it was, as you do, something more nefarious.
And why in the world would you want to manipulate H5N1, bird flu, to make it more transmissible human to human? Why would somebody do that? It didn't pose a risk to humans before. Why would somebody do that? Do you have a theory?
And you just mentioned the most obvious thing, and I don't want to gloss over it, which is once again, just as with COVID, none of the people in the positions of public health are talking at this point about the things that we should be doing to be good stewards of our overall immune health. No one is talking about good nutrition, regular exercise, adequate sleep, stress mitigation. It's all
you know, wait, you know, and if we're lucky, they'll come out with a new vaccine for bird flu or, you know, they'll kill all the birds and we can somehow eradicate it. You know, you as a pediatrician, what are the things that you are telling your patients?
You know, how do you coach your patients clinically on a daily basis so that they have something other than, you know, bathing in Purell and waiting for a vaccine?
Right. Well, you are more magnanimous than I. Indoctrination is probably the nicest word. We were lied to. We were lied to, unfortunately, in medical school. And the greatest existential crisis of my life was really coming to that realization that much of what we were taught in our training simply wasn't true. It was fed to us by Big Pharma.
Big Pharma overwhelmingly controls many of our academic institutions. They certainly control the once-storied medical journals like The Lancet and JAMA and BMJ, so that those publications are nothing more than the marketing arm for Big Pharma.
We need to take an ad break, but when we come back, I want to talk a little bit more about that and then get into what's happening with measles and what's reality and what's fiction with regard to measles. So we'll come back after the break.
There's nothing in medicine that doesn't boil down to a risk benefit calculation. It is the mandate of public health to consider the impact of any particular mitigation scheme on the entire population. This is uncharted territory, Drew. Welcome back.
I'm thrilled to be joined here today with Dr. Alejandro Diaz, pediatric immunologist and allergist and the chief of pediatric medicine at the Wellness Company. Looking at that ad, Dr. Diaz, from the Wellness Company that just rolled, I am really proud of the kits that the company has put together. They really empower people to have on hand
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