Dr. Kelly Victory
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first heard Dec 2024
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okay so you have to i believe put things in perspective so that people people are prone to fear all the time after they've been primed with what happened with covid people as you said have ptsd and it isn't going to take much to push them over the edge So we are obligated as honest physicians to put things in perspective.
It doesn't mean you are minimizing the tragedy of the loss of a child, but you are saying, look, we have got to say, what is really the real risk? I tell people, if you want to be afraid of something, be afraid of drug-resistant tuberculosis. That's something you want to be afraid of, okay? Exactly.
No, and I think it is again, Dr. Harvey Reich, our colleague who's an epidemiologist from Yale, I asked him the other day, I said, you know, how many on average, how many deaths in the United States do we have per year as a result of complications from diabetes and from smoking and drug abuse? And it's over a million, over a million deaths a year from those things that are entirely preventable.
type two diabetes, smoking, drug abuse. So I'm talking about things, you know, not cancers that you could say other things, but things that are 100% preventable. And so I think it's, we have to put things in perspective. Another thing I want to talk with you about and see what insights you have is when we talk about MMR, which is measles, mumps, rubella, that the combined vaccine.
So the MMR vaccine that we give in the United States is not just for for measles. It's measles, mumps, rubella combined. And as I intimated, I have concerns that our problem with vaccination isn't just the total number, but it's the frequency and the kind of how the intervals in which we give them. Japan, I understand, got rid of, they outlawed the MMR, that combined vaccine in 1993.
They still make the individual components, measles, mumps, rubella available, but not as the combined shot. Do you know much about that or do you know what impact, what caused them to do that and what has the impact been on their disease process?
Well, that's exactly right. I think that you talked about the impact that COVID had on faith, family, and health. One of the things also that it did was tremendously undermine people's confidence in our profession and in public health because it has all been politicized. I think there's no question that it isn't just coincidence.
that robert f kennedy jr gets in the office all of a sudden we're having a you know this outbreak of measles that's being hyped up we've got you know concerns about bird flu they're making sure that president trump can't make good on his promise to bring egg prices down because if you kill all the birds turns out that egg prices will go up uh and so you know they are making sure of it uh they being the people who are doing this unnecessary calling so yes i think it's highly political
And it's only platforms like this one and your efforts on things like your Substack and Speaking Out that we can try to return perspective, common sense, critical thinking, and those sorts of things to the public because I think people don't know what to believe or who to trust. And all I can say is, you know, look to the people who got it right during COVID.
They're likely to lead you the right path during measles and bird flu. You've been posting a little bit on X recently on Twitter about things that are outside of the normal realm of just medicine, but about the tyrannical governments around the world. You posted recently about Romania, and I know you were in Romania, or it's my understanding that you're speaking there.
I think these things are related. They might not look to be related on the surface, but using health crises to control the population, using fear to control the population. Talk a little bit about that.
No, I agree with you. I think there's so much propaganda. It's so hard to know what is true. And when you start using infectious disease, which is as a cudgel to control people's behavior, to control what they do, whether they work, whether they travel, whether they get together, it is really, it is evil. It is the essence to me of evil.
It is a very quick way to strip people of their civil liberties because people turn them over to you. It was so quick during COVID. I remember being so shocked at how quickly people were willing to get in line, to fall in line, to put that mask on, to stand six feet apart, even though it made no sense. And our own colleagues
People, you know, you and I sat next to in virology class are all of a sudden, you know, removing every other chair in their waiting room and all of this silliness, you know, our own profession kind of bought into it. We've got a few minutes left. Let's talk a little bit about that in terms of you have great insight.
I think not only are you prescient in terms of what's coming next, but I think you have great insight perhaps because of your faith and your global experience in terms of, you our own profession and what drove them to buy into it. Because I would submit to you that none of this could have happened if it were not for the complicity of our own profession, people in medicine.
If everyone had stood up like you and I did, if everyone had said the truth and said the emperor has no clothes, if we had said the scary part, this wouldn't have happened. What do you think has happened in medicine that has allowed our colleagues to buy into it?
I'm so glad you mentioned that. Maybe Caleb can throw that up there. Dr. Matthias Desmet, I believe, has been on the show with Drew in the past. We certainly have quoted him commonly. He's the person who I first became familiar with referencing Bethlehem. Mass Formation Psychosis and Mass Formation, That Psychology. But I have not read that book cover to cover. I would like to.
But I think, you know, go with this line of the theory behind the, you know, totalitarianism and the tactics. And certainly it played into, I believe, what happened with our profession. But go on from there.
No, I think you are right. And I've said that myself many, many times. We have a disease care system, not a healthcare system. It's my understanding that in ancient Greece, actually, people paid their physicians when they were well and stopped paying when they got sick because it was a sign that you're not doing your job. We do the opposite.
Doctors only make money and hospitals certainly only make money when people are in their hospitals. And so we have an incentive to do things that are not necessarily in their best interest.
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