Dr. Kevin Tracey

Not only did it put her in and out of the hospital for many, many years, it also forced her to be subjected to use drugs.

And a whole list of biologic agents like anti-TNF we were just talking about, all of which have in common, many of which have in common, they have black box warnings, which are the most serious side effects that FDA will label of a drug.

I mean, the side effects include sepsis, cancer, tuberculosis, fungal infection, and

And they're invasive.

These biologic drugs are invasive.

And in Kelly's case, they didn't help her.

Some people say she failed the drugs.

As a physician, I never say that.

I say the drugs failed the patient.

Right, right.

And her symptoms, in addition to having GI symptoms,

for many years.

They also, as can happen in some Crohn's patients, it also gave her a severe form of arthritis and arthropathy, which intermittently required her to be in and out of wheelchairs and in and out of a cane.

And this went on for many, many years.

And finally, her physicians told her to get used to a life of steroids.

And around that point of time,

she saw me on Huffington Post Live.

And I was talking about this vagus nerve story that you've introduced.

And I was talking about the fact that we were launching through a company that I co-founded.

The company was launching a clinical trial in Europe, in Amsterdam, and in Bosnia and Croatia.