Dr. Kevin Tracey

In the procedure, and so there's a select group of neurosurgeons who are doing this at select sites.

But eventually, again, it's possible.

I don't know this.

I'm not an insider in Setpoint Medical, the company.

But eventually, I would imagine a time when the implants are brought into other specialties once the expertise has been gained.

So the device has a rechargeable battery.

To start, because the FDA has a purpose for rheumatoid arthritis, the rheumatologist will program the device to turn itself on for one minute a day.

Nothing for the patient to do.

When the current is flowing, I've met many patients.

They don't feel anything when it's stimulated.

Some patients feel a little tingling for one minute in their neck.

Some patients feel nothing.

I've met people who sleep through the therapy once a day and I've met other people.

I met a school teacher and she was written about in the New York Times.

dawn and she told me that it wakes her up in the morning and i said oh that's too bad 4 30 waking you up at 4 30. she goes no i get up early anyways i don't mind it and for years my alarm would come a teacher and my alarm would go off at 4 30 and i would feel the pain in my hands and wrists and i'd start to cry and now this thing wakes me up with a little tingling and i wake up and i have no pain in my hands and i get a big smile on my face to start the day so she doesn't mind the tingling

That's right.

That's exactly right.

And as you know, the data are all in the Nature Medicine paper that John Tesser is the first author.

And that was an important factor in the sham controls.

How many people in the sham group think they have the active group, think that they're feeling it come on for a minute a day?