Dr. Layne Norton

So I like that.

Astrogonda, I'm very bullish on Astrogonda.

There's a few meta-analyses now showing improved lean mass, improved strength, improved sleep, better stress management.

you know, there's been some worries about like, I think liver, some people said, or also like depression and mood.

I haven't seen it pop up in any of the randomized control trials.

And so I just don't, I don't really, it's not something I worry about.

That seems to be another adaptogen that kind of like helps really with stress management.

And interestingly, none of the, it raises testosterone too, but not an amount that would

it doesn't raise the testosterone or lower cortisol enough to where it explains the changes in lean mass.

So this could be like a, a matrix thing again, where there's like acting on multiple, multiple pathways summing up to an outcome.

Now,

I am a little bit – it's in our recovery product, but it's tier two because I just want to see more studies over a longer period of time.

Like if you look at creatine, caffeine, whey protein, there are thousands of placebo-controlled trials showing the benefits of this across multiple labs over decades in different countries.

Very strong evidence.

I just want to see more from things like ashwagandha, rhodiola over a longer period of time before I would move that into a tier one, right?

And the mechanism isn't really understood yet of ashwagandha.

And so I just want to see that flushed out a little bit more, right?

And then there's things like betaine or trimethylglycine, which may improve power output during exercise.

You have things like beta-alanine, which if you're exercising like intense between 30 seconds and 10 minutes, that appears to have some benefits.

Citrulline may have some benefits, and at least if you're eating like six grams in terms of like fatigue resistance.