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Dr. Mark D'Esposito

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Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

Well, if you give acetylcholine and it kind of boosts memory, well, that can indirectly help your executive function.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

Or if you give a drug that improves your focus, then that can indirectly help, you know, working memory.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

So...

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

What I'm really pushing for is not just a single, you know, it's going to be one drug.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

It's going to be a cocktail.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

And we have to not only figure out what the cocktail is, but also figure out who we're giving it to.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

What's...

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

you know, link it to the person's own makeup of their own neurochemistry.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

When we get to a point where we'll know, we can map out sort of everyone's dopamine, norepinephrine, serotonin levels, and then we'll make real progress in helping them.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

Because right now, I sort of say with my students, what we're doing is just like cutting open the skull and just sort of pouring it onto the brain.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

We're not actually doing it, but it seems that way.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

The precision is not there yet.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

No, and it's even more complicated than it seems because the dopaminergic system is complicated because it's not only just the prefrontal cortex, as we talked about, it's also the basal ganglia.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

And so not only do we have to measure dopamine just generally levels, we have to measure the balance of the dopamine in the striatum and the...

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

and the prefrontal cortex.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

There's a model of dopamine function and its relation to executive function that has to do with sort of the balance between these two systems.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

That dopamine in the prefrontal cortex is promoting sort of stability, it's keeping information in mind, it's keeping these representations stable.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

Whereas the dopamine in the basal ganglia, what it's doing is allowing you to update and refresh the information that you're holding in mind, this sort of stability versus flexibility.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

So if you have too much dopamine in the frontal cortex, it can lead to a very rigid state where you don't let anything in.

Huberman Lab
Dr. Mark D'Esposito: How to Optimize Cognitive Function & Brain Health

And if you have too much dopamine in the striatum and you get too flexible, then you can get very distractible.