Dr. Martin Picard

And if we want to talk about the philosophy of this, thinking about what's causing what maybe isn't really the right question to ask, but what's emerging that's relevant to your question, there's a clear connection between the subjective experiences that we have

that we know from first person to be meaningful because that's what we have access to primarily is how we feel, how we experience the world somehow is related to the biology of the energy transforming units, energy processing units in our brain.

And maybe also in the immune system.

And so we've done work in immune cells and brain tissue.

And we're currently analyzing mitochondria from 5,000 human brain samples.

That's 10 different brain and muscle samples from 500 people.

I think everything you just mentioned doesn't make much sense from this molecular biology lens that's really captured biomedicine.

many years ago, 50 years ago or so, there was this wave of, whoa, there's DNA that exists and there's proteins.

We can sequence stuff.

We can measure the components of a cell and we can look at things under the microscope and we can scan the brain and all of those things

assets that we were all of a sudden able to capture.

It was really convincing, compelling.

We built a whole research and academic science ecosystem around this.

And I think by nature, this reductionistic framework pushed aside the mind.

right?

All of the subjective experiences, you know, it's in your head or whatever.

All of this was pushed aside.

So the human experience is the most direct way in which you can know whether the content of your life matches your energy, right?

And matches what

matters for you and what you really care about.