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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Closed loop here simply means that I'm not going to just wait until you go into deep sleep and then just take a chance and start stimulating your brain, not knowing of the synchrony of my pulses into your brain, right?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

relative to the brain waves that you're experiencing.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Closed loop does do that.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So what I'm doing is I'm measuring the electrical brain waves that are occurring.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And because they're nice and slow, they're very predictable.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And I can program my algorithm and my brain stimulation machine to say, I'm going to wait and wait.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And as soon as you are on this peak of your slow wave, it turns out to be the negative trough, but I'll forego that.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

we then try to strike at that point of midnight when you're going through the biggest sort of powerful sort of dip in the brainwave and we're trying to sort of enhance it and same with the peak.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So this is where we get a stimulus from the brain, your electrical brain activity, and then we create a timed response.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So it's a stimulus response, it's a call and response loop.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And by way of doing that, it's a much smarter, specific method than a more generalized, I'm just going to stimulate and hope I catch those waves at the peaks.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

The reason is important because different people have different speeds of their slow brainwaves.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

They're all slow, but your speed of brainwave may be a little bit different to mine.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And if I'm off with my stimulation by, let's say, just half a second or a quarter of a second time and time again, I may be leaving some benefit on the table.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

But closed-loop stimulation creates this personalized electrical prescription of stimulation.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And when you do that, you get very reliable benefits.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

You can boost those deep-sleep brainwaves.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

You get the memory benefits.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

But also what we found is you not only boost those deep-sleep brainwaves, you boost another electrical signature that I spoke about in the first episode called sleep spindles.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And it seems to be the combination of those two things by way of electrical stimulation that provides the benefits.