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Dr. Matt Walker

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Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And I'll come back to why that's important in a second.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

But sure enough, what they demonstrated, they were able to boost the electrical quality of that deep sleep by about 60%.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And they were also able to almost double the amount of memory benefit that sleep provided, which is very impressive.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Now, I should note that there was more recently a replication attempt of that paper, and they did a very good job.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

They really did it to the letter, and they weren't able to replicate the effects as powerfully.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

However...

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Subsequent studies have now taken a more nuanced approach and it's the one that we've taken too.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And it's called closed loop stimulation.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Closed loop here simply means that I'm not going to just wait until you go into deep sleep and then just take a chance and start stimulating your brain, not knowing of the synchrony of my pulses into your brain, right?

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

relative to the brain waves that you're experiencing.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

Closed loop does do that.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So what I'm doing is I'm measuring the electrical brain waves that are occurring.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And because they're nice and slow, they're very predictable.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And I can program my algorithm and my brain stimulation machine to say, I'm going to wait and wait.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And as soon as you are on this peak of your slow wave, it turns out to be the negative trough, but I'll forego that.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

we then try to strike at that point of midnight when you're going through the biggest sort of powerful sort of dip in the brainwave and we're trying to sort of enhance it and same with the peak.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So this is where we get a stimulus from the brain, your electrical brain activity, and then we create a timed response.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

So it's a stimulus response, it's a call and response loop.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

And by way of doing that, it's a much smarter, specific method than a more generalized, I'm just going to stimulate and hope I catch those waves at the peaks.

Huberman Lab
GUEST SERIES | Dr. Matt Walker: Protocols to Improve Your Sleep

The reason is important because different people have different speeds of their slow brainwaves.