Dr. Matthew Walker
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Yeah, Why We Sleep.
Yeah, Why We Sleep.
It has come on the scene now. I mean, back then, just before I published the book, Sleep, and it wasn't the book that did this, Sleep was almost the neglected stepsister in the health conversation of that time back in 2018. Yeah. And now I think people are starting to really embrace it. Maybe it's the wearable movement. Maybe it's just more people speaking about it. I don't quite know what it is.
It has come on the scene now. I mean, back then, just before I published the book, Sleep, and it wasn't the book that did this, Sleep was almost the neglected stepsister in the health conversation of that time back in 2018. Yeah. And now I think people are starting to really embrace it. Maybe it's the wearable movement. Maybe it's just more people speaking about it. I don't quite know what it is.
It has come on the scene now. I mean, back then, just before I published the book, Sleep, and it wasn't the book that did this, Sleep was almost the neglected stepsister in the health conversation of that time back in 2018. Yeah. And now I think people are starting to really embrace it. Maybe it's the wearable movement. Maybe it's just more people speaking about it. I don't quite know what it is.
But now people, as you said, are not only saying it's the third pillar of good health alongside diet and exercise. In fact, if you look at the data, it's really not. It's the foundation on which those two other things sit. And so I think that's why it's had this really remarkable ascendancy in some ways. Nevertheless, I would still say though, that sleep has an image problem in society.
But now people, as you said, are not only saying it's the third pillar of good health alongside diet and exercise. In fact, if you look at the data, it's really not. It's the foundation on which those two other things sit. And so I think that's why it's had this really remarkable ascendancy in some ways. Nevertheless, I would still say though, that sleep has an image problem in society.
But now people, as you said, are not only saying it's the third pillar of good health alongside diet and exercise. In fact, if you look at the data, it's really not. It's the foundation on which those two other things sit. And so I think that's why it's had this really remarkable ascendancy in some ways. Nevertheless, I would still say though, that sleep has an image problem in society.
Meaning that we still apply this label of stigma and laziness. So many people will tell you, how clean they've been eating this past month, how many days they've got to the gym. I don't know anyone who's sidled up to me and sort of, you know. Hey, I slept nine hours last night. Yeah, I am consistently saying, because people's response is, really?
Meaning that we still apply this label of stigma and laziness. So many people will tell you, how clean they've been eating this past month, how many days they've got to the gym. I don't know anyone who's sidled up to me and sort of, you know. Hey, I slept nine hours last night. Yeah, I am consistently saying, because people's response is, really?
Meaning that we still apply this label of stigma and laziness. So many people will tell you, how clean they've been eating this past month, how many days they've got to the gym. I don't know anyone who's sidled up to me and sort of, you know. Hey, I slept nine hours last night. Yeah, I am consistently saying, because people's response is, really?
And embedded in that response and the tone is, well, are you not busy? Yeah. And if you're not busy, you must not be important. And therefore, we have this problem. But anyway, whoever the PR agent for sleep has been in the past 20 years, we should probably find them.
And embedded in that response and the tone is, well, are you not busy? Yeah. And if you're not busy, you must not be important. And therefore, we have this problem. But anyway, whoever the PR agent for sleep has been in the past 20 years, we should probably find them.
And embedded in that response and the tone is, well, are you not busy? Yeah. And if you're not busy, you must not be important. And therefore, we have this problem. But anyway, whoever the PR agent for sleep has been in the past 20 years, we should probably find them.
What I really wanted to try to do is capture, in a way, the full spectrum, the full panoply of sleep's influence in every single facet of us human beings as a species. And as you said, you can start right at the top. Some of our most recent work, which I think to me was the biggest surprise most recently,
What I really wanted to try to do is capture, in a way, the full spectrum, the full panoply of sleep's influence in every single facet of us human beings as a species. And as you said, you can start right at the top. Some of our most recent work, which I think to me was the biggest surprise most recently,
What I really wanted to try to do is capture, in a way, the full spectrum, the full panoply of sleep's influence in every single facet of us human beings as a species. And as you said, you can start right at the top. Some of our most recent work, which I think to me was the biggest surprise most recently,
Sleep is essential for our pro-social behavior, meaning there is no major society that has sort of aspect of developed nations that has evolved without human cooperation, for example. That's pro-sociality. And what we found is that when people are sleep-deprived, you become asocial, you withdraw from society, you just don't want to interact with other people. You just want to shut down.
Sleep is essential for our pro-social behavior, meaning there is no major society that has sort of aspect of developed nations that has evolved without human cooperation, for example. That's pro-sociality. And what we found is that when people are sleep-deprived, you become asocial, you withdraw from society, you just don't want to interact with other people. You just want to shut down.
Sleep is essential for our pro-social behavior, meaning there is no major society that has sort of aspect of developed nations that has evolved without human cooperation, for example. That's pro-sociality. And what we found is that when people are sleep-deprived, you become asocial, you withdraw from society, you just don't want to interact with other people. You just want to shut down.