Dr. Michael Grandner

Works in younger people.

Works in... So, like, it's a blunt instrument.

It's retraining yourself to sleep.

It doesn't... And it works well by helping people gain control.

It doesn't necessarily add hours to your night, but neither do sleeping pills either.

What it does is it removes some of those barriers.

About, again, about 85% of the time.

Not 100%.

But it's also...

some people don't know how to get access to it or they read about it online and either the information they get isn't, isn't great or they have exposure to it in that, you know, maybe, you know, maybe they're doing it by the book, but they might need a little flexibility with it or something.

But there's lots of adaptations.

I mean, we edited a textbook on how to adapt CBT out of different populations, but you know, a lot of people just don't know what exists and the people who do don't really understand what it is or how to find someone who knows what they're doing.

Yes and yes.

I mean, there are many people that I've talked to who've tried it, done it with themselves.

I mean, because it's not rocket science.

There's an art to it, but the basics of it are relatively simple.

It's bed equals sleep.

Get out of bed if you're not sleeping.

you know, compress your window of, you're giving yourself too much opportunity.

You're not filling it, compress your opportunity, but then expand it again once you can fill it.