Dr. Michelle Johnston

To keep going at her level, at her high level, to keep going.

She just needed to know that, I see you, you're doing a great job.

Ryan, if you said that to me, I would be on cloud nine.

And that's why they don't do it.

Yes.

And Chester Elton, one of my favorite people, he wrote Leading with Gratitude.

And he kept hearing because he believes that that is the secret sauce to great leadership is really saying thank you.

I'm grateful for the work you're doing and leading with gratitude is going to get you far.

And the pushback he received was leaders would say, well, I don't want to say it too much because then it's going to kill their motivation.

I don't want to be like too nice.

How many times?

So he conducted a study to see how many times was too much.

And he said he found that the average per day was maybe one, one thank you.

And because leaders were scared, they'd do it too much.

And that too much was over nine times, and no one in the history of his research ever did it nine, seven, eight, nine times.

So you almost can't say it enough.

I need to get that five every day.

You can be, too, you know, by just saying thank you.

That's fine.

But how about again?