Dr. Michelle Johnston

Where are you?

Like, what brought you to New Orleans, right?

You just kind of...

And I got to know a little bit about Albany and when I need to visit.

You really need to just kind of get to know somebody before you don't have trust and comfort and safety unless you get to know somebody.

And you need all those elements to drive results.

Exactly.

This does not take a long time.

And I bet you if you ask every listener who's tuned in,

Do you want your people to climb the mountain with you?

Do you want them to walk through fire when you need them to because it matters?

Yeah, well, they're not going to climb the mountain or walk through fire or stay up until 2 a.m.

unless they know you care about them as humans.

Oh my gosh.

So I always, you had mentioned how to get people's attention to that they need to kind of pivot towards connection.

And I begin any coaching contract, any coaching relationship with a 360.

And that's what really motivates change is when you see it in writing, how other people say your inability to delegate is

is causing me to want to look for another job it's making me feel like I'm not adding any value because you're going to end up doing it anyhow or you're going to come behind my back and second guess or proofread or change this that is the number one theme that comes up in 360s that really gets in the way of great leadership is the leader thinks oh I'm going to get in all the details because then I know it's perfect but perfection is not disconnect perfection is disconnection

So you will not have a close relationship with your people if you're constantly micromanaging.

You've got to pull up, man.