Dr. Nolan Williams

So these are the terminology that people talk about.

Is it truly one night?

Depending upon how fast you metabolize it, sometimes 24, sometimes 36 hours.

Sometimes it can be shorter, but it is a long time.

It's a very long time.

So it's definitely the longest acting psychedelic substance I know of.

And so we have over the last couple of years been able to do this first in human kind of full neurobiological clinical neurocognitive evaluation of what

ibogaine is doing in this case in in special operations special forces individuals former navy seals for me army rangers that that kind of crew of folks and look at the pre-post changes that we that they're experienced to be able to totally quantitate all of that and so we've been able to capture all the clinical scales you know depression scales ptsd scales all that standard stuff neurocognitive batteries so how does your executive function work specifically how does your verbal memory all of that

and then neuroimaging and EEG.

So this will be the first human study of ibogaine for those.

And the reason why is because ibogaine's kind of the, both seemingly the most potent and most effective

seemingly to me at least most powerful psychedelic but the one that has the most risk too because it has a cardiac effect it seems to be that you can screen people out that have risk off of their electrocardiogram and reduce the risk quite a bit and that's what we all did but that's why people haven't really studied it as much and it isn't as in addition nobody goes to a rave on Ibogaine there's no recreation at all with it it's not fun

People say that it's relieving, but it's hard work, right?

Because, yeah, you're reexamining things.

So then we see these folks after, and I'll tell you, you know, we haven't fully analyzed the data yet, but I'll tell you that from what my folks are telling me, it's pretty dramatic.

You know, people come back and they're doing a lot better.

Soldiers experience something called moral injury, right, where they...

Maybe they accidentally blew something up and it had a kid in it or something like that.

If they're in Afghanistan or Iraq, maybe a child died on accident or maybe a civilian died or whatever it was, right?

And they suffer these moral injuries as part of the job.