Dr Norman Swan

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238 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 19 Jul

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ABC News Daily · The renewed obsession with living longer · 19 Jul 2026 podcast

frivolous research, it's not my mad biohacking.

Now the surprising thing I discovered, which contradicted what I came into this, is I thought that the money was in finding something that would turn back aging.

So I take a pill and I'm going to be young again.

In fact, the smart money is not on that.

The smart money is on something called geroscience.

And geroscience, the hypothesis is that a lot of the diseases that kill us or disable us are caused by aging at their roots.

And therefore, if you can come upstream beyond cholesterol, beyond blood pressure, beyond smoking to the aging causes of these diseases,

and sort that out, you can actually fix up a lot of diseases at the same time.

And then they could develop one medication that they knock off multiple diseases, and they get multiple pots of gold, and that's how they make their money.

So the business side of this is fascinating.

And in fact, the GLP-1s, those MP-like drugs, are almost like a prototype for this.

So they started off with diabetes, then they moved to obesity.

Now they might actually fix up your heart and maybe your kidneys as well.

And they keep on bolting on money-making projects around the site.

It is.

Clinics are opening up in Australia, whether they're online, in bricks and mortar.

You can go and get an IV drip, your IV drip bars and so on.

So there's a lot of what goes on in America is now happening here.

And there's an enormous market in peptides, as you say.

So these are short chains of amino acids.

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