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Dr. Peter Attia

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The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

I made a note to ask you this question. When do you tell people, because we do this with our patients, which is take the tracker off. We're doing a six month tracker holiday, done with the tracker. Done. So is that mainstay part of your treatment is like, let's get all that anxiety out of there?

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

I made a note to ask you this question. When do you tell people, because we do this with our patients, which is take the tracker off. We're doing a six month tracker holiday, done with the tracker. Done. So is that mainstay part of your treatment is like, let's get all that anxiety out of there?

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Maybe they shouldn't be helped. Maybe there's nothing to fix. Correct. Yeah. Correct.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Maybe they shouldn't be helped. Maybe there's nothing to fix. Correct. Yeah. Correct.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

And the space between them is a week?

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

And the space between them is a week?

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Given that people are waiting a year and a half to see you tells me that there's a mismatch on the supply demand curve. Yeah. Why is that the case?

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Given that people are waiting a year and a half to see you tells me that there's a mismatch on the supply demand curve. Yeah. Why is that the case?

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Yes.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Yes.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

We use it ourselves. The Society of Behavioral Sleep Medicine thing? Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

We use it ourselves. The Society of Behavioral Sleep Medicine thing? Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

So what will it take for AI to replicate what you're doing to scale this much more? Because a lot of this, a lot of the work I do can be done by an AI. How much of the art and science of this is teachable to LLMs and at least as another offering? I'm not saying it should ever displace what you're doing or what a therapist is doing.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

So what will it take for AI to replicate what you're doing to scale this much more? Because a lot of this, a lot of the work I do can be done by an AI. How much of the art and science of this is teachable to LLMs and at least as another offering? I'm not saying it should ever displace what you're doing or what a therapist is doing.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

But if we have a backlog of people for years, shouldn't we have an alternative which might say, look, there's an online course that you can do that will give you 70% of the value of what you might get sitting in the group with Ashley.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

But if we have a backlog of people for years, shouldn't we have an alternative which might say, look, there's an online course that you can do that will give you 70% of the value of what you might get sitting in the group with Ashley.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Or just come up with an alternative to scale.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Or just come up with an alternative to scale.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Yes, exactly.

The Peter Attia Drive
#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Yes, exactly.