Dr. Peter Attia
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So if I said to you, Rachel, I have a treatment for you that is going to fix a hundred problems, but it increases your risk by 100% of getting hit by an asteroid, would you take the medicine or not? Well, you'd have to know what your base level risk of getting hit by an asteroid is. And given that it's almost zero, doubling it doesn't mean anything.
So if I said to you, Rachel, I have a treatment for you that is going to fix a hundred problems, but it increases your risk by 100% of getting hit by an asteroid, would you take the medicine or not? Well, you'd have to know what your base level risk of getting hit by an asteroid is. And given that it's almost zero, doubling it doesn't mean anything.
So the absolute risk increase for these women was 0.1%. So to put that in less technical terms, it meant even if you believe the results of that study, and you've offered a great explanation for why the actual results should be questioned, but even if you take them at face value, for every 1,000 women who were put on HRT, an additional 1%
So the absolute risk increase for these women was 0.1%. So to put that in less technical terms, it meant even if you believe the results of that study, and you've offered a great explanation for why the actual results should be questioned, but even if you take them at face value, for every 1,000 women who were put on HRT, an additional 1%
got breast cancer, though she didn't die from it at any increased rate to the women who didn't get the hormone. This to me, and I'd like you to push back on this, although I'm worried you won't be able to because you share my bias. This is the greatest injustice imposed by the modern medical system in our lifetime.
got breast cancer, though she didn't die from it at any increased rate to the women who didn't get the hormone. This to me, and I'd like you to push back on this, although I'm worried you won't be able to because you share my bias. This is the greatest injustice imposed by the modern medical system in our lifetime.
Yeah, it's really interesting to hear you say that because you're highlighting something that's as dramatic and potentially more dramatic than the thing I've tended to focus on. I've focused more so, maybe I just take for granted that I got lucky and I had amazing mentors and they taught me how to do this stuff, but it's also the nature of my personality to just
Yeah, it's really interesting to hear you say that because you're highlighting something that's as dramatic and potentially more dramatic than the thing I've tended to focus on. I've focused more so, maybe I just take for granted that I got lucky and I had amazing mentors and they taught me how to do this stuff, but it's also the nature of my personality to just
be endlessly curious and show up in somebody's clinic for two weeks and do this. I've tended to focus on the lost generation of women. So I had my analysts do this analysis two years ago, and I don't remember the exact numbers, but the analysis was
be endlessly curious and show up in somebody's clinic for two weeks and do this. I've tended to focus on the lost generation of women. So I had my analysts do this analysis two years ago, and I don't remember the exact numbers, but the analysis was
Calculate for me or estimate for me the number of women who were deprived of HRT because of the WHI and calculate the excess mortality that was achieved through that injustice, through hip fractures, cardiovascular disease. We just went through the entire list.
Calculate for me or estimate for me the number of women who were deprived of HRT because of the WHI and calculate the excess mortality that was achieved through that injustice, through hip fractures, cardiovascular disease. We just went through the entire list.
calculate the number of lives that were lost, the amount of disability that was incurred, because to your point, even if you don't die from a hip fracture, 50% of survivors never regain the same level of function. And I didn't even know how to quantify all of the sexual side effects that women unnecessarily endured, all of the vasomotor side effects that they unnecessarily endured.
calculate the number of lives that were lost, the amount of disability that was incurred, because to your point, even if you don't die from a hip fracture, 50% of survivors never regain the same level of function. And I didn't even know how to quantify all of the sexual side effects that women unnecessarily endured, all of the vasomotor side effects that they unnecessarily endured.
I didn't even try to quantify that because I don't know how to. But that's the thing that I focus on. And again, it's personal to someone my age because my mother and my mother-in-law are in that category. They're the ones that got absolutely screwed by this system.
I didn't even try to quantify that because I don't know how to. But that's the thing that I focus on. And again, it's personal to someone my age because my mother and my mother-in-law are in that category. They're the ones that got absolutely screwed by this system.
You're highlighting something equally catastrophic with potentially a greater impact, which is we failed to train a generation of doctors to do anything about it. And if that's not reversed, the problem doesn't get much better.
You're highlighting something equally catastrophic with potentially a greater impact, which is we failed to train a generation of doctors to do anything about it. And if that's not reversed, the problem doesn't get much better.
I did learn that hormones were bad.
I did learn that hormones were bad.