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I would say the beauty. It's gorgeous. It's a beautiful state. And it also happens to be Howells, the location at which I work. So it was through work that I ended up in Vermont. It wasn't necessarily a choice, but... I am very glad for the choice. It's a beautiful state to raise a kid in.

Yeah, so I work for an organization called High Five Adventure Learning Center. And I use adventure-based activities for team and leadership development from fifth grade kids all the way up to the Boston Bruins. So a spectrum.

Yeah, so I work for an organization called High Five Adventure Learning Center. And I use adventure-based activities for team and leadership development from fifth grade kids all the way up to the Boston Bruins. So a spectrum.

Yeah, so I work for an organization called High Five Adventure Learning Center. And I use adventure-based activities for team and leadership development from fifth grade kids all the way up to the Boston Bruins. So a spectrum.

And I would say I'm unique in that I get to take people on a ropes course in Vermont. Yeah. You know, we bring participants up to 40, 50 feet in the air and kind of have stretch moments for them. So really have kind of really extreme experiences really that allows them to kind of develop more as a team. And it doesn't matter if you're a fifth grader or you're a professional athlete.

And I would say I'm unique in that I get to take people on a ropes course in Vermont. Yeah. You know, we bring participants up to 40, 50 feet in the air and kind of have stretch moments for them. So really have kind of really extreme experiences really that allows them to kind of develop more as a team. And it doesn't matter if you're a fifth grader or you're a professional athlete.

And I would say I'm unique in that I get to take people on a ropes course in Vermont. Yeah. You know, we bring participants up to 40, 50 feet in the air and kind of have stretch moments for them. So really have kind of really extreme experiences really that allows them to kind of develop more as a team. And it doesn't matter if you're a fifth grader or you're a professional athlete.

The heights is the great normalizer or the great equalizer.

The heights is the great normalizer or the great equalizer.

The heights is the great normalizer or the great equalizer.

Let's say 40, 40, 50. Sure. Anywhere within that range.

Let's say 40, 40, 50. Sure. Anywhere within that range.

Let's say 40, 40, 50. Sure. Anywhere within that range.

I would assume that if we did it untethered, we wouldn't be allowed. What a weird way to go at that. That seems very legalistic.

I would assume that if we did it untethered, we wouldn't be allowed. What a weird way to go at that. That seems very legalistic.

I would assume that if we did it untethered, we wouldn't be allowed. What a weird way to go at that. That seems very legalistic.

We start to get calls from parents immediately after this. No, they're on a rope. We belay them. And I would say that I've seen you climb. I believe there was a Colonel Moscow episode where you climbed. Yes. Incredible physique. Mastered the climb.

We start to get calls from parents immediately after this. No, they're on a rope. We belay them. And I would say that I've seen you climb. I believe there was a Colonel Moscow episode where you climbed. Yes. Incredible physique. Mastered the climb.

We start to get calls from parents immediately after this. No, they're on a rope. We belay them. And I would say that I've seen you climb. I believe there was a Colonel Moscow episode where you climbed. Yes. Incredible physique. Mastered the climb.

the, the differing factor I would say for our programs is we actually teach our participants to do the belaying. So, um, that is that demonstration of team and leadership development is actually giving them a skill and allowing them to be responsible for their team members.