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So my education is in teaching, and so I was going to become a teacher. And I came over to the States to do a summer camp program. It's a rite of passage, it seems, for a European to enter America and work a summer camp program. So I felt like I had to do it. And at the camp, they had a ropes course, they had team development, and they did year-round programming. And I kind of just fell in.

So my education is in teaching, and so I was going to become a teacher. And I came over to the States to do a summer camp program. It's a rite of passage, it seems, for a European to enter America and work a summer camp program. So I felt like I had to do it. And at the camp, they had a ropes course, they had team development, and they did year-round programming. And I kind of just fell in.

So my education is in teaching, and so I was going to become a teacher. And I came over to the States to do a summer camp program. It's a rite of passage, it seems, for a European to enter America and work a summer camp program. So I felt like I had to do it. And at the camp, they had a ropes course, they had team development, and they did year-round programming. And I kind of just fell in.

They said, you've got to teach a degree. We'd love you to stick around. And they sponsored my visa. Oh, very cool. And 18 years later, I'm still here. Oh, wow. So I've yet to find my way home.

They said, you've got to teach a degree. We'd love you to stick around. And they sponsored my visa. Oh, very cool. And 18 years later, I'm still here. Oh, wow. So I've yet to find my way home.

They said, you've got to teach a degree. We'd love you to stick around. And they sponsored my visa. Oh, very cool. And 18 years later, I'm still here. Oh, wow. So I've yet to find my way home.

Or is someone up there with them? No, but I would say the question to push them does come up often. And it's the number one thing we say not to do. So, sorry, Sona.

Or is someone up there with them? No, but I would say the question to push them does come up often. And it's the number one thing we say not to do. So, sorry, Sona.

Or is someone up there with them? No, but I would say the question to push them does come up often. And it's the number one thing we say not to do. So, sorry, Sona.

Off to the side. Yeah. So to answer the question, there's two parts to it. I like that you laughed at that. There's two parts to it.

Off to the side. Yeah. So to answer the question, there's two parts to it. I like that you laughed at that. There's two parts to it.

Off to the side. Yeah. So to answer the question, there's two parts to it. I like that you laughed at that. There's two parts to it.

This is the next career path for you, Matt. So either we have adequately prepared the students so that we're not having people up who shouldn't be up there. We don't force them up.

This is the next career path for you, Matt. So either we have adequately prepared the students so that we're not having people up who shouldn't be up there. We don't force them up.

This is the next career path for you, Matt. So either we have adequately prepared the students so that we're not having people up who shouldn't be up there. We don't force them up.

Yeah, I would say there's loads of sequencing, planning. It's part of the risk management thing. But the other component is that I teach, as well as teaching the team building stuff, I also teach rescue training for those kind of scenarios. So we can have participants go up to height or staff members, sorry, go up to height and then help pick a participant off the course.

Yeah, I would say there's loads of sequencing, planning. It's part of the risk management thing. But the other component is that I teach, as well as teaching the team building stuff, I also teach rescue training for those kind of scenarios. So we can have participants go up to height or staff members, sorry, go up to height and then help pick a participant off the course.

Yeah, I would say there's loads of sequencing, planning. It's part of the risk management thing. But the other component is that I teach, as well as teaching the team building stuff, I also teach rescue training for those kind of scenarios. So we can have participants go up to height or staff members, sorry, go up to height and then help pick a participant off the course.

So there are there's like a spectrum or a range of rescue scenarios that we can do. And I teach those two. So from a like a risk management lens, I would say you're in safe hands because not only can we deal with the with the mental side of how to help people, but we can also deal with the physical component of getting someone down if necessary. We wouldn't want to push someone, though.

So there are there's like a spectrum or a range of rescue scenarios that we can do. And I teach those two. So from a like a risk management lens, I would say you're in safe hands because not only can we deal with the with the mental side of how to help people, but we can also deal with the physical component of getting someone down if necessary. We wouldn't want to push someone, though.