We’re gettin’ Belayed!
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Who are the main hosts and guests in this episode?
Hey, Phil, welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan.
Phil, how are you?
Hey, Conan, Sona, Matt. How's it going? There's no particular order to the way I said your name in terms of hierarchy.
Where does Phil live and what is his background?
It's fine. I feel bad. It's fine, and it's nice to talk to you. Phil, tell us a little bit about yourselves. I like to, you know, get the parameters of a man before we continue speaking. Where are you right now?
So I live in Vermont. Yeah, you've got that Vermont accent. I was almost going to say it, and you said it for me. I know. This traditional Vermont accent.
Yeah. Where are you from originally?
I'm originally from a town called Ipswich in England on the East Coast.
Okay.
Very nice. I felt I should experience New England, and so that's where I live now.
It's so funny, I grew up in New England and really believed when I was a boy that England had stolen the names of our towns.
I really believed that. Is that what they tell you?
No, I just was, I found out that, you know, because I grew up in Boston and there's Cambridge and just on and on and on. And I just thought, you know, Sturbridge. And then I started to hear about these places in England and thought, well, why can't they get their own names? Yeah.
I remember I went to Ipswich Mass, so you may be familiar, but they have an Ipswich Mass brewery. And I went in and I said, I'm from Ipswich. And they said, well, no shit, we're in Ipswich. And I said, no, no, the original. And I expected to be carried on shoulders, but that did not happen.
No, there's not a lot of... Ever since we got rid of your king, we don't go carrying people around on our shoulders. But, well, so you live in Vermont. How did you choose... Vermont. What made you say, okay, you have the entire United States to play with. What made you choose Vermont?
What kind of work does Phil do in Vermont?
I would say the beauty. It's gorgeous. It's a beautiful state. And it also happens to be Howells, the location at which I work. So it was through work that I ended up in Vermont. It wasn't necessarily a choice, but... I am very glad for the choice. It's a beautiful state to raise a kid in.
I like New Hampshire. I like Vermont. I've spent a lot of time in both. And I'm curious what you do. You mentioned a job. What is your job?
Yeah, so I work for an organization called High Five Adventure Learning Center. And I use adventure-based activities for team and leadership development from fifth grade kids all the way up to the Boston Bruins. So a spectrum.
It's very interesting to me that it's the same principles if you're talking to someone in the fifth grade or if you're talking to a professional athlete. It's the same principles, I guess. Leadership, how to work together, how to have fun.
And I would say I'm unique in that I get to take people on a ropes course in Vermont. Yeah. You know, we bring participants up to 40, 50 feet in the air and kind of have stretch moments for them. So really have kind of really extreme experiences really that allows them to kind of develop more as a team. And it doesn't matter if you're a fifth grader or you're a professional athlete. The heights is the great normalizer or the great equalizer.
Yeah. Now, okay, let's get into the safety of it because you send a fifth grader up a pole. How many feet in the air?
Let's say 40, 40, 50. Sure. Anywhere within that range.
Is the child tethered or is there a good chance the child could fall to his or her doom?
I would assume that if we did it untethered, we wouldn't be allowed. What a weird way to go at that. That seems very legalistic.
How does adventure-based team building work for kids and professionals?
I would assume that were one to have an untethered child, that if found out, one would be discovered and one could be in trouble. I think you have untethered children. And I think kids are falling like apples. Apples in October. I think they're tumbling and you're just catching them.
We start to get calls from parents immediately after this. No, they're on a rope. We belay them. And I would say that I've seen you climb. I believe there was a Colonel Moscow episode where you climbed. Yes. Incredible physique. Mastered the climb.
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Chapters
9 chapters
1
Who are the main hosts and guests in this episode?
0:13–0:23
2
Where does Phil live and what is his background?
0:23–2:10
3
What kind of work does Phil do in Vermont?
2:10–4:07
4
How does adventure-based team building work for kids and professionals?
4:07–6:12
5
What safety measures are in place for ropes course activities?
6:12–7:54
6
How does Phil teach belaying and team responsibility?
7:54–12:01
7
What challenges arise when participants hesitate on the ropes course?
12:01–14:29
8
How does Phil's background and path lead him to team building in America?
14:29–18:14
9
What emotional and group exercises does Phil conduct with the team?
18:14–27:42