Dr. Poppy Crum

And by all means, hopefully we're not going to be wearing a lot of things on our bodies.

I sure as heck won't.

The more we put on our bodies, it affects our gait.

It has ramifications in so many different ways.

When I got here, I was talking to some of the people that work with you, and they're like, well, what wearables do you wear?

And I actually don't wear many at all.

And I have worn rings.

I've worn watches at different times.

But for me, the importance is the point at which I get insights that I am a big believer in.

As little on my body as possible when it comes to wearables.

One interesting company that I think is worth mentioning is Pison.

And Pison, again, they've got a form factor that's like a Timex watch or they're partnered with Timex, but they're measuring –

Are you familiar with PISM?

Okay.

So they're measuring psychomotor vigilance.

So, you know, really trying to understand it's like an ENG, electro-neural modulation, and they're trying to understand fatigue and neural attentiveness in a way that is, you know, continuous and useful for, say, high-risk operations or...

training, whether it be it in sport.

But what I like about it is it's actually trying to get at a higher level cognitive state from the biometrics that you're measuring.

And that to me is an exciting, really exciting direction is when you're actually doing something that you could make a decision

about how I engage in my work or how I engage in my training or my life based on that data about my cognitive state and how effective I'm going to be.