Dr. Randy Bach

So he was very much for a goal. The ends justify the means. And the means didn't matter. And he'd spread the money anywhere. And he would kind of violate statutes we might have here so he could do them elsewhere. And then if you remember Mad Magazine, there was Spy vs. Spy. Antonio Prohias from Cuba had a wonderful series, great, great books. My kids were entertained for years. And I was...

So he was very much for a goal. The ends justify the means. And the means didn't matter. And he'd spread the money anywhere. And he would kind of violate statutes we might have here so he could do them elsewhere. And then if you remember Mad Magazine, there was Spy vs. Spy. Antonio Prohias from Cuba had a wonderful series, great, great books. My kids were entertained for years. And I was...

But this is kind of what's happening between EcoHealth Alliance and Wuhan Lab. We had EcoHealth Alliance basically as a shell carve out of the CIA to watch them. But they weren't gonna let us be there unless we kind of had the candy, which is better technology than they had.

But this is kind of what's happening between EcoHealth Alliance and Wuhan Lab. We had EcoHealth Alliance basically as a shell carve out of the CIA to watch them. But they weren't gonna let us be there unless we kind of had the candy, which is better technology than they had.

So we are supplying a lot of these kind of instrumental jumps that these other countries might have to form bioweapons so we can watch them. So it's kind of like, You know, we are watching the watchers, they're watching us.

So we are supplying a lot of these kind of instrumental jumps that these other countries might have to form bioweapons so we can watch them. So it's kind of like, You know, we are watching the watchers, they're watching us.

It becomes this kind of hall of mirrors where we have to ask, you know, validly if we're performing a reasonable function by kind of like bringing the things that they might not have been able to achieve on their own. I see this mirrored in the USAID that we're spending money, we're doing stuff, but it is for the general good, is to reflect on our own values and whatnot.

It becomes this kind of hall of mirrors where we have to ask, you know, validly if we're performing a reasonable function by kind of like bringing the things that they might not have been able to achieve on their own. I see this mirrored in the USAID that we're spending money, we're doing stuff, but it is for the general good, is to reflect on our own values and whatnot.

And I'm not sure that's the case with a lot of these biodefense things. watch them. If they're going to do something, we might have an early warning system. But I think that the model that I think is very dangerous and interesting and analogous to this is what China did with our automotive industry.

And I'm not sure that's the case with a lot of these biodefense things. watch them. If they're going to do something, we might have an early warning system. But I think that the model that I think is very dangerous and interesting and analogous to this is what China did with our automotive industry.

A lot of people went over bright eyed and bushy tail and naive to China, Ford, General Motors, to make car plants thinking they were going to take some big piece of the China market. It's a huge market, billion people and so forth, and growing and whatnot. And what happened instead was they just basically

A lot of people went over bright eyed and bushy tail and naive to China, Ford, General Motors, to make car plants thinking they were going to take some big piece of the China market. It's a huge market, billion people and so forth, and growing and whatnot. And what happened instead was they just basically

they kind of morphed their companies, they templated, they watched what we did, and they morphed, they built their own companies, they're like Cyanar, they put various regulations and tariffs up, and we couldn't sell there, and our share of market in China has diminished. And the same thing happened basically as a model for what happened in Wuhan.

they kind of morphed their companies, they templated, they watched what we did, and they morphed, they built their own companies, they're like Cyanar, they put various regulations and tariffs up, and we couldn't sell there, and our share of market in China has diminished. And the same thing happened basically as a model for what happened in Wuhan.

They don't necessarily need us after a certain point, And they're not going to watch us and so forth. And what we wound up doing was kind of creating this byproduct, as you mentioned, possibly Lyme disease. But in this case, maybe the SARS-CoV-2. SARS-CoV-1, the original SARS, classic Coke SARS 2003 was bad enough. There are a lot of instructive aspects to that that we didn't take heed of.

They don't necessarily need us after a certain point, And they're not going to watch us and so forth. And what we wound up doing was kind of creating this byproduct, as you mentioned, possibly Lyme disease. But in this case, maybe the SARS-CoV-2. SARS-CoV-1, the original SARS, classic Coke SARS 2003 was bad enough. There are a lot of instructive aspects to that that we didn't take heed of.

We have basically taken the worst of the directives that China had and applied them here. I think Dr. Fauci and frankly a lot of public health people and maybe politicians in general have some envy of what China is able to do. The argument I had with Nicholas Christakis was I thought he had an overwhelming admiration

We have basically taken the worst of the directives that China had and applied them here. I think Dr. Fauci and frankly a lot of public health people and maybe politicians in general have some envy of what China is able to do. The argument I had with Nicholas Christakis was I thought he had an overwhelming admiration

And kind of joy at the fact that China was able to clamp down and shut down society so completely thoroughly as if to kill off the virus and make the virus not replicate. And this is kind of a fallacy.

And kind of joy at the fact that China was able to clamp down and shut down society so completely thoroughly as if to kill off the virus and make the virus not replicate. And this is kind of a fallacy.