Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

I've almost stopped using them.

They slip in because, you know, you're conditioned a certain way, but... People understand them.

People understand them.

So there's always the challenge between what's easy to communicate versus what is...

Totally accurate.

Yeah.

You know, you could make the same case with boosting an immune system.

Yeah.

You know, this idea that boosting your immune system, which I think you're not a huge fan of as a terminology, and I understand why.

At the same time, I think the flip side to that is, is that I think a lot of people understand it as being, I want to improve my immune system function.

Yeah.

So if I sleep eight hours compared to five hours and my natural killer cells go up by 40 or 50%.

Yeah.

I think I would say it's reasonable to say boost that because I think you boosted the number of natural killer cells.

But I understand also that we want to talk more about balance.

I mean, do you want to just speak to that for a moment?

In terms of practical things then that we can think about doing to support our immune system health, we've just mentioned self-compassion being one of those.

You just mentioned stress and the stress response and also how over the past years, it sounds as though you've introduced meditation into your life.

Perhaps let's move on to stress and think about what is the impact of chronic unmanaged stress on our immune systems?

And then what are some of the practical things we can do?