Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

And I guess in the power of attention, we've already spoken about this idea that believing is seeing.

You mentioned the hypnosedation and the chap who did the operation without any anesthetic.

We touched on relationships and choose the perspective that kind of helps you, I guess.

The second one was the power of anticipation that you just mentioned.

And in this section in the book, there was quite a lot of stuff around health, which I found really, really interesting.

I particularly like the chapter called Living Longer, Stronger and Smarter, how your beliefs become your biology.

And you made the case that our thoughts about aging might have more impact on the aging process

than things like diet, exercise, and sleep.

So can you speak to that topic a little bit?

And it's very damaging, isn't it?

We don't realize how damaging that stuff is.

I wonder what the current...

epidemic of ill health in our elderly populations are doing to children's view of aging today.

Because I think if you probably compare the current generation to previous generations,

Yes, we're living longer or many of us are living longer, but we're also living with a lot of sickness and infirmity and cognitive decline.

And I wonder what that does to kids growing up.

If they're seeing that, if they're seeing elderly, infirm grandparents, for example, do you know what I mean?

What message is that imprinting in them?

You've shared some great studies from your book.

I've also spoken before on this podcast about